diff --git a/src/desktop/Window.cpp b/src/desktop/Window.cpp
index c712e5ebf..c2b920949 100644
--- a/src/desktop/Window.cpp
+++ b/src/desktop/Window.cpp
@@ -1822,3 +1822,24 @@ std::optional<std::string> CWindow::xdgDescription() {
 
     return m_xdgSurface->m_toplevel->m_toplevelDescription;
 }
+
+PHLWINDOW CWindow::parent() {
+    if (m_isX11) {
+        auto t = x11TransientFor();
+
+        // don't return a parent that's not mapped
+        if (!validMapped(t))
+            return nullptr;
+
+        return t;
+    }
+
+    if (!m_xdgSurface || !m_xdgSurface->m_toplevel || !m_xdgSurface->m_toplevel->m_parent)
+        return nullptr;
+
+    // don't return a parent that's not mapped
+    if (!m_xdgSurface->m_toplevel->m_parent->m_window || !validMapped(m_xdgSurface->m_toplevel->m_parent->m_window))
+        return nullptr;
+
+    return m_xdgSurface->m_toplevel->m_parent->m_window.lock();
+}
diff --git a/src/desktop/Window.hpp b/src/desktop/Window.hpp
index 449c9c605..abc2747fe 100644
--- a/src/desktop/Window.hpp
+++ b/src/desktop/Window.hpp
@@ -409,6 +409,7 @@ class CWindow {
     bool                       isNotResponding();
     std::optional<std::string> xdgTag();
     std::optional<std::string> xdgDescription();
+    PHLWINDOW                  parent();
 
     CBox                       getWindowMainSurfaceBox() const {
         return {m_realPosition->value().x, m_realPosition->value().y, m_realSize->value().x, m_realSize->value().y};
diff --git a/src/layout/IHyprLayout.cpp b/src/layout/IHyprLayout.cpp
index a7237aef4..8d32e44ec 100644
--- a/src/layout/IHyprLayout.cpp
+++ b/src/layout/IHyprLayout.cpp
@@ -159,12 +159,19 @@ void IHyprLayout::onWindowCreatedFloating(PHLWINDOW pWindow) {
 
         // TODO: detect a popup in a more consistent way.
         if ((desiredGeometry.x == 0 && desiredGeometry.y == 0) || !visible || !pWindow->m_isX11) {
-            // if the pos isn't set, fall back to the center placement if it's not a child, otherwise middle of parent if available
-            if (!pWindow->m_isX11 && pWindow->m_xdgSurface->m_toplevel->m_parent && validMapped(pWindow->m_xdgSurface->m_toplevel->m_parent->m_window))
-                *pWindow->m_realPosition = pWindow->m_xdgSurface->m_toplevel->m_parent->m_window->m_realPosition->goal() +
-                    pWindow->m_xdgSurface->m_toplevel->m_parent->m_window->m_realSize->goal() / 2.F - desiredGeometry.size() / 2.F;
-            else
-                *pWindow->m_realPosition = PMONITOR->m_position + PMONITOR->m_size / 2.F - desiredGeometry.size() / 2.F;
+            // if the pos isn't set, fall back to the center placement if it's not a child
+            auto pos = PMONITOR->m_position + PMONITOR->m_size / 2.F - desiredGeometry.size() / 2.F;
+
+            // otherwise middle of parent if available
+            if (!pWindow->m_isX11) {
+                if (const auto PARENT = pWindow->parent(); PARENT) {
+                    *pWindow->m_realPosition = PARENT->m_realPosition->goal() + PARENT->m_realSize->goal() / 2.F - desiredGeometry.size() / 2.F;
+                    pWindow->m_workspace     = PARENT->m_workspace;
+                    pWindow->m_monitor       = PARENT->m_monitor;
+                }
+            }
+
+            *pWindow->m_realPosition = pos;
         } else {
             // if it is, we respect where it wants to put itself, but apply monitor offset if outside
             // most of these are popups